SESSION 1-A

(Intro to MOOing and General Planning)

NETEACH Nook
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Your typical classroom.  It has that new smell to it, and it is empty. All 
walls are primed with white paint and are bare, except for one light switch.
You see Teacher's Desk, Big Table, Bulletin Board, Beanbags, Fireside
 Bearskin, Kitchen Table, and Wading Pool.
You see Ron, Corwin, Redford, Dan [Guest], Sunshadow, ines [Guest], Green, 
and Guilson standing about.
You see LCD Panel.
Obvious exits: out
Redford says, "The time is now 2:05 p.m. (GMT) on Wednesday"
Sunshadow plays the Minute Waltz.
Yoshi slides in, ready to NETwork.
Gregor greets Yoshi.
Yoshi says, "Hi y'all!"
Guilson [to Yoshi]: Hello!
ines [Guest] says, "hI EVERYBODY. i'M GLAD TO BE HERE."
ines [Guest] says, "I'm sorry, but I'm having problems with my keyboard."
Sunshadow [to Yoshi]: Hi.
Gregor [to ines [Guest]]: You're doing fine!
Green says, "Hi Yoshi"
Redford [to ines [Guest]]: Any particular reason for lower case letters in 
your name?
Colega is going to try to join you.
Gregor says, "YOu know, I'm lookin around here, and so far, I don't see 
anyone with ZERO Moo skills...."
Colega has arrived.
Gregor says, "Hiya, Colega!"
Colega looks around and waves.
Yoshi says, "Hiyee, Colega!"
Colega says, "Hi!"
Colega says, "Wow!!!!"
Corwin says, "Hi Colega!"
Sunshadow [to Colega]: Hi Colega.
Colega is thrilled to see all these net geeks gatherre here.
Edo has arrived.
Kristina slides in, ready to NETwork.
Dan [Guest] says, "Hello Colega. My skills feel like zero.  You guys DO so 
much waving, playing, yikes!"
Redford hugs Colega, practically knocking her up or off her feet.
Ron says, "hi Colega."
Guilson [to Colega]: Hello
Redford says, "Be right back"
Kristina says, "Guys, I'm a bum, but I have to get to work. :("
Colega hugs Redford back.
Gregor waves to Kristina.
Colega [to Guilson]: hello!
Mehitabel slides in, ready to NETwork.
Ron waves at Colega.
Mehitabel says, "Hi."
Gregor [to dan]: We'll have you waving, playing, yikesing in no time!@
Yoshi waves at Mehitabel.
Kristina says, "hi!"
Kristina says, "And bye...."
Sunshadow [to Mehitabel]: Hi Mehi!
Edo throws his arms around all for a BIG howdy do.
Mehitabel says, "SHi."
Colega waves to mehi.
Kristina looks sad at having to leave.
Frizzy slides in, ready to NETwork.
Ron says, "Hi Edo."
Kristina goes home.
Colega pouts cuz kristina has to go.
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     Welcome to NETEACH-L's premiere MOO discussion session!

        (with much appreciation to schMOOze University 
        and its fine players, programmers, and wizards!)

           Please note! This session is being logged.
           For a transcript, please see our web page:
         http://spot.colorado.edu/~youngerg/netmoo.html

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Frizzy waves to everyone.  "Good morning/afternoon/evening!"
Edo says, "Hello. "
Colega can hardly contain herself.  This is so exciting!
Thomas slides in, ready to NETwork.
Edo says, "Hi Frizzy. Yep. It's Good Morning (7:10) here too."
Gregor says, "In planning this session, I had NO clue how many people would
 come..."
Guilson waves to Frizzy
Gregor says, "Nor what their level of MOO expereince would be.,.."
Frizzy thinks we have a good mix.
Gregor says, "But it looks to me like everyone here has at least tried it
 before...is that true?"
Thomas waves.
Green says, "yeh"
Guilson has
Dan [Guest] says, "yep, for me"
ines [Guest] says, "Gregor, I', m nearly ZERO wintiwith MOOs"
ines [Guest] Ines is really excited about this session!
Thomas says, "yes"
Colega has tried it a few times.
Sunshadow says, "Yeah."
Gregor says, "If you haven't MOOed before, please type:  "I'm NEW!   
Frizzy is *not* an addict!
Colega grins.
Edo says, "Oh yeah."
Yoshi [to ines [Guest]]: No worry, you have all kinds of helpers here now;)
Colega is an *avid* MOOer.
Ron says, "Hi Guilson."
Gregor . o O ( Frizzy is TOO an addict! )
Ron says, "Hi Thomas"
Ron says, "Hi Dan."
Thomas [to Ron]: Hi Ron
Dan [Guest] says, "Hello kind colleague good to be here with you"
Colega waves to Dan.
Mehitabel welcomes everyone.
Gregor says, "I think we have more teachers than students. Let me go over 
just a couple commands with our new players to allow us to move on to our 
discussion."
Edo says, "Gregor, is there an agenda/ESL related talk planned, or is that 
too serious?"
Redford says, "Well now we're all here. What are we supposed to do?"
Gregor [to Edo]: Not really...well, here's the agenda I had planned:
Green says, "Yeh"
Frizzy pokes Redford.  "Willya give the MOO master a chance to 
pontificate?! :)"
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This session's agenda:
    Introduction to MOOing (about 1/2 hour)
    Regroup for discussion
    Brainstorming:
      future topics
      format for discussions
      times?

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Yoshi listens.
Ron thinks Gregor means MOO teachers not NETteachers.
Gregor nods to Ron. "I mean MOO tutors (MOOtors?), not neteachers."
ines [Guest] says, "YEah, I have tried it once."
ines [Guest] says, "THanks, Yoshi"
Redford rubs aching ribs
Yoshi winks at ines.
Frizzy assures ines she's doing just fine.
Redford assues Frizzy she is assuring just fine
Ron counts 13 people in the room.
Gregor says, "The basic commands you need to know to get started are these:  
@who, ", :, page, @join, and look....."
Redford says, "I like this student/teacher ratio"
Gregor says, "Anyone have any problems with those?"
Mehitabel sounds fine to me.
Green says, "What is @join?"
Guilson says, "Er... where are the restrooms?"
Gregor [to Green]: Use @join to "teleport" to the location of another 
player...
Redford [to Guilson]: Use the wading pool
Guilson smiles
Green says, "Understood"
Colega volunteers to go out so others can practice joining her with the @join 
command.
Colega grins at redford and guilson
Edo says, "Can you teleport to a room without joining anyone there?"
Redford [to Colega]: I'll join you!!!
Gregor [to Edo]: No, not really.
Mehitabel says, "No."
Colega heads home... join her if you want!  Then we'll return.
Colega goes home.
ines [Guest] thanls everybody for their help
Gregor [to Green]: type @join colega
Frizzy smiles.
Corwin slides in, ready to NETwork.
Green steps out.
Edo says, "So, when I logged on today, I was right in just joining one 
person who was in this room?"
Gregor [to ines [Guest]]: Why don't you try it too?
Mehitabel nods to Edo.
Gregor [to Edo]: That works, yes.
Frizzy nods to Edo.  
Edo deeply bows to all of his masters.
Corwin returns.. just
Redford steps out.
Ron sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Gregor [to ines [Guest]]: Do you know the commands I mentioned?
Dan [Guest] says, "I must go superMOOers, see you at the next session."
Ron stands up from Wading Pool. . .
Gregor waves to Dan.
Frizzy waves to Dan.
Mehitabel says, "Bye, Dan."
Thomas waves at Dan [Guest].
Ron waves at Dan [Guest].
Redford has arrived.
Yoshi says, "See you again, Dan."
Green has arrived.
Frizzy [to Sunshadow]: "How about you?  Are you familiar with the commands 
Gregor mentioned earlier?"
Gregor says, "Ines? Are you still with us?"
Dan [Guest] has disconnected.
Sunshadow [to Frizzy]: No problemo.
Thomas why we need @join, are we going anywhere
Colega has arrived.
Gregor [to Thomas]: For future reference. :o)
Thomas nods
Gregor says, "It's considered polite to KNOCK before joining someone in a 
private room, however..."
Edo must go to school to teach. He'll try to rejoin you from his classroom 
if time permits.
Yoshi [to Thomas]: You won't be lost if you know that command, even if
 everyone suddenly disappears somewhere.
Yoshi grins.
Frizzy waves to Edo.
Gregor says, "So before you join someone, type: KNOCK "
Ron says, "Bye Edo."
Gregor says, "Bye, Edo."
Redford knocks politely to see if he may enter.
Yoshi [to Edo]: Bye, Edo.
Edo says, "Farewell for now."
Edo has disconnected.
Colega says, "do we let Redford in?  ;-)  "
Redford knocks politely to see if he may enter.
Colega says, "bye, Edo!"
Gregor says, "And I'm going to invite Redford...I'll type INVITE REDFORD"
Mehitabel says, "Bye, Edo."
Redford knocks politely to see if he may enter.
Gregor tells Redford that he may enter.
Colega nods.
Yoshi [to core]: Sure.
Ron nods.
Green nods
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Let's begin our discussion session now....
After the our discussion, you can make arrangements with any 
of the MOOtors to meet again for further instruction.

Please use your new-found MOO skills to introduce yourself now.

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Redford says, "Read make dates!"
Green says, "Hi I'm Green"
Gregor says, "How about some introductions? I'm Greg Younger, from the 
Economics Institute in Boulder, Colorado."
Green says, "I'm in Korea"
Redford says, "I'm Redford and I"m a degenerate"
Mehitabel is Julie Falsetti from Hunter College in New York City.
Gregor agrees with Redford.
Ron says, "I'm Ron Corio from Virginia Commonwealth University in the USA."
Frizzy says, "I'm Frizzy, aka Karla Frizler, and I'm an Educational 
Technology Specialist at City College of San Francisco.  Plus, I run NETEACH."
Colega is actually Lonnie Turbee at Syracuse Language Systems, Syracuse, New 
York.
Colega agrees with Redford.
Ron nods to Redford.
Thomas says, "I'm Thomas "
Guilson is David Ochoa from Mexico
Yoshi says, "I'm Yoshi from Japan."
Sunshadow says, "I'm Daniel Norton at the Arlington County Adult Ed ESL
 Program."
Corwin is Nick Noakes at a Uni in Hong Kong
Garfield has arrived.
Thomas says, "I'm Thomas from Seattle"
Garfield says, "hi Gregor, Ron, Sunshadow, ines [Guest], Guilson, Yoshi,
 Mehitabel, Frizzy, Thomas, Corwin, Redford, Green, and Colega!"
Colega laughs out loud.
Frizzy grins.  "What a mouthful!"
Ron [to Sunshadow]: Arlington, as in Virginia?
Gregor says, "What a social verb! :o)"
Sunshadow [to Ron]: Yes.
Corwin [to Frizzy]: Only Garfield could manage that ;-)
Guilson [to Garfield]: Hello
Gregor says, "It's nice to meet all of you...I met quite a few of you at 
TESOL. Um...here's what I had in mind to discuss today:"
Mehitabel [to ines [Guest]]: Have  we lost you?
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This session's agenda:
    Brainstorming:
      future topics
      format for discussions
      times?

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Ron [to Sunshadow]: Do you teach ESOL in Arlington?
Garfield [to Corwin]: what is only I could manage to do?
ines [Guest] says, "I guess I do."
ines [Guest] waves at Dan
ines [Guest] steps out.
ines [Guest] has arrived.
Thomas says, "Future topics for discussion here?"
Gregor [to ines [Guest]]: Are you with us, Ines? :o)
Frizzy [to ines [Guest]]: "Welcome back. :)"
Yoshi [to Garfield]: The verb to say hi to all the people in a room.
Corwin [to Garfield]: Say such a mouthful
Gregor nods to Thomas.
Garfield [to Yoshi]: Oh I see!
Yoshi [to ines [Guest]]: Hi again
Lavender [Guest] slides in, ready to NETwork.
Mehitabel [to ines [Guest]]: Can you introduce yourself.
Thomas says, "How to get your school to use the I-net in teaching"
Ron waves at Lavender [Guest].
Colega thinks about future topics...
Guilson [to Lavender [Guest]]: Hi!
Green says, "Great name!"
Corwin smiles at :~~)
:~~) [Guest] . o O ( a conference here? )
Colega says, "How to get teachers to start MOOing."
Ron thinks :~~) is a tough name to type.
Gregor says, "Hi, Laveneder, Garfield, :~~)...we're having a meeting here 
for NETEACH-L... Are you in the right place?"
ines [Guest] says, "I'm here, I'm here."
Yoshi [to :~~) [Guest]]: yes.
Corwin thinks about future topics too...
Lavender [Guest] says, ""Hito"yes"
Lavender [Guest] says, "yes"
Lavender [Guest] says, "Hi from Israel"
:~~) [Guest] [to all]: my name is  ":" in short.
Frizzy [to ines [Guest]]: "Do you feel pretty comfortable with the commands 
now?  It takes a little practice. :)"
Lavender [Guest] says, "I do"
Gregor [to Lavender [Guest]]: Great, welcome! Could you instroduce yourselves 
then?
Lavender [Guest] says, "Not too much. Hi Karla, it's Jean"
Frizzy says, "Oh! Hi there!"
Lavender [Guest] says, "I just did. I'm Jean from Israel"
Frizzy hugs Lavender.
Ron goes for the water bottle.
Yoshi says, "Hi Lavender."
Gregor says, "OK, Jean from Israel! :o) Nice to meet you."
:~~) [Guest] . o O ( am I supposed to be serious here? )
Corwin runs for an expresso
Lavender [Guest] says, "Are we trying to have a discussion on the use of the 
I in the classroom?"
Frizzy grins.
Ron says, "Hi, Jean."
Yoshi nods at :~~).
Redford says, "Does anyone actually use it in the CR?"
Lavender [Guest] says, "Hi to all"
Ron [to Sunshadow]: Are you Jeff?
Gregor says, "We're brainstorming some future topics for discussion here in 
these sessions."
Thomas [to Jean]: Hi
Sunshadow says, "I need some good short term (1-2 weeks) projects using the 
Internet where students identify a problem, take actions to research and 
solve this problem."
Frizzy [to Lavender [Guest]]: "We're getting there."
Yoshi [to Redford]: What's CR?
Colega has used it in the classroom.
Lavender [Guest] says, "We are using it at present with three teacher trainee 
classes."
Gregor nods to Sunshadow.
Redford says, "Classroom"
Gregor is taking notes, BTW. :o)
Colega says, "Another topic:  Internet for distance education."
Redford [to Colega]: Why not do a little demo
Thomas says, "How to deal with technophobia"
Frizzy [to Thomas]: "Good one."
Gregor says, "Good...good..."
Colega [to Redford]: Of what?  I'd have to be standing up in front of 
people IRL and yelling at them.
Lavender [Guest] says, "How do we organize ourselve s so we talk so we vacan 
understand what's going on?"
Ron says, "How about MOO project, as in interclasses?"
Green says, "I'm not using Internet"
Colega agrees wholeheartedly with Thomas.
Green says, "BUt I'd like to"
ines [Guest] says, "I teach EFL in BRazil."
ines [Guest] says, "I'm glad to be here, though I'm kind of mixed up. Thanks 
for being so friendly."
Colega nods to Ron.  Good one.
Redford [to Colega]: Sort of like You have to do what you want to do!!!
Frizzy says, "I'd like to see some discussion on teacher training."
Corwin says, "How about online teacher logs.."
Colega grins at Redford.
Mehitabel says, "May I ask a question?"
Gregor smiles at ines.
Colega [to Frizzy]: That is going to be the key... train the new teachers.
Frizzy thinks so too.
Colega listens to Mehi.
Yoshi is trying to organize a class on the net too and is interested in the 
possibility of distand Ed. over the net.
Sunshadow agrees with Frizzy and Colega.
Mehitabel says, "How many people here are using a MOO client program?"
Green says, "Yeh teacher training"
Colega notes that it's hard to get the older, established teachers to use 
the Internet.
Yoshi is.
Gregor [to Lavender [Guest]]: Since we're just brinstorming for now, let's 
not worry about being too organized...you can get the transcripts of the 
session later and reread in case you miss something.
Colega is using TinyFugue
Thomas says, "me!"
Green says, "I'm not "
Ron says, "I'm using TinyFugue.  Finally!"
Colega can't imagine doing this without a client.
Frizzy grins at Ron.
Garfield says, "I am not"
Sunshadow says, "Not yet."
Lavender [Guest] says, "I'm lost. "We"we"If you want the older teachers 
to use the Internet, then yuou have to give assignments using it, and 
teach them how to use it."
Mehitabel says, "Ines? Lavendar?"
Green says, "It's OK"
Frizzy says, "Yes, a client is really important."
Yoshi agrees with Colega.
Ron thinks maybe client should be explained.
Guilson is using TF
ines [Guest]  smiles
ines [Guest] is planning to use MOOs in the classroom, but still has a 
lot to learn...
Gregor says, "So what about a sesion here to discuss assignements to use 
in MOO, on the WEB, using email..."
Colega did it for months when she first started MOOing.  Raw telnet, 
that is.
Lavender [Guest] says, "We just wrote a lesson using mOOs"
Redford is a pliant client
Colega agrees with Gregor.
Thomas says, "I'm not sure I can get my school to install a client"
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "That sounds good, a session on activities."
Ron says, "Me neither, Thomas."
Green nudges REdford
Sunshadow [to Gregor]: Sounds great to me.
Corwin [to Thomas]: I did myself on my pc at work and at home
Ron says, "But I am going to try to convince them to install TF on the 
net."
Garfield says, "The time in Scotland is now 3:34 p.m. on Wednesday"
Lavender [Guest] says, "Can you use Netsacape or another browser to a\talk 
or does Netscape only launch the browser?"
Redford wants to see research assignments on the net
Thomas says, "They put all the same software on all machines"
ines [Guest] says, "I'm looking for a good MOO client..."
Redford wants to see conversation classes on line
Gregor says, "One idea I have had is more MOO instructions sessions....MOO 
101, 202, etc."
Corwin nods Redford "me too"
Colega agrees with Gregor and Redford.
Lavender [Guest] says, "If we're talking about the time, it's 5:35 pm in
 Israell."
Frizzy advises those approaching schools about storing clients on the server 
to use published material like my thesis to demonstrate the educational uses 
of MOO.
Colega wants to know if people really do learn language via MOO.
Gregor [to Colega]: So are you suggesting a session on approaches to research?
ines [Guest] agrees with Gregor.
Frizzy likes that idea too.
Green says, "Has anyone been on a MUD in a foreign language?"
Frizzy has.
Guilson has
Colega notes we need research and/or papers like Frizzy's to help us talk 
about al this with the uninitiated.
Thomas has
Corwin has been previewing a book that desribes research for synchronous
 environments such as Daedalus for foreign language learning
Green says, "Daedalus?"
Gregor says, "Let's stop for just a second to reorganize...I think we're 
moving a little quickly, and the words are flying off the screen..."
Thomas says, "you can use my thesis too"
Frizzy sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Ron sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Yoshi nods at Gregor.
Gregor says, "If I could have your attention for just a sec..."
Thomas listens
Guilson listens to Gregor
Colega listens.
Lavender [Guest] says, "Where is yiour tehewseis these"Thomas, where is 
tyour thesis?"
Frizzy stands up from Wading Pool. . .
Green says, ":listens"
Gregor says, "We're going to divide into groups now. Frizzy, Ron, and 
Yoshi have sat down at tables..."
Frizzy sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Gregor checks to see who's in the room.
Yoshi hasn't.
Green sits down at Wading
Green sits down at Wading Pool
Garfield gathers everybody around for a group hug!
Green says, "Is the MOO thesis available?"
Guilson [to Gregor]: Do I need to use a specific command for that?
Guilson sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Sunshadow sits down at Kitchen Table
Mehitabel sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Gregor says, "I've asked some helpers to page you to have you join a table. 
From the tables, you can talk in small groups."
Lavender [Guest] says, "Thomas, is your thesis on line?"
ines [Guest] says, "It's 11:40 in Brazil."
Thomas says, "My thesis in not online yet"
Guilson . o O ( cool! )
Green says, "have we diided off into a smal group?"
Lavender [Guest] says, "Thomas, is there anyway we can see your thesis or 
get the relevant chapters?"
Colega has not been asked to sit anywhere yet.
Yoshi sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Gregor says, "Green, thomas, and Colega, would you type  SIT FIRESIDE"
Thomas says, "nobody invited me"
Colega sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Green sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Gregor [to Thomas]: Yoshi's slackin'. :o)
Thomas sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Gregor says, "oops, SIT KITCHEN"
Gregor notes that we're ALL learning how to use this MOO more effectively 
today! :o)
Gregor [to Lavender [Guest]]: Just type it and find out! :o)
ines [Guest] is doing fine and feels ok to watch.
ines [Guest] says, "Where should I go?"
Lavender [Guest] says, "What's happening. Who else is in the kitchen?"
Lavender [Guest] says, "I did. and nothing happened."
Gregor says, "OK, so the topic for discussion:  PLease continue talking 
about future topics. Also, talk about the dynamic of these sessions: How 
much chaos do we want? How much control?"
Ron speaks up, ""I am having trouble rounding up Garfield and Lavender."
Corwin speaks up, "Lavender, kitchen is a table, type sit kitchen"
Lavender [Guest] says, "SIT KITXCHEN"
Lavender [Guest] says, "sit kitchen"
Lavender [Guest] sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Corwin speaks up, "yes lavender without the """
Ron speaks up, "Garfield Please join us at the kitchen table."
Gregor lags, unfortunately.
ines [Guest] sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Sunshadow is going to try to join you.
Sunshadow steps out.
Sunshadow has arrived.
Yoshi speaks up, "Hi again, Sunshadow."
Sunshadow [to Yoshi]: Hi, Yoshi.
Sunshadow says, "sit wading"
Gregor closes the door to NETEACH Nook...
Sunshadow sits down at Wading Pool. . .

Yoshi, Green, Colega, and Thomas at the Fireside Bearskin (thanks to Yoshi)


Yoshi sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Colega sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Green sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Green [to this group]: There's just the right aamount of chaos.
Colega grins
Green [to this group]: Gregor is doing a good job
Thomas [to this group]: how come we can see everyone chatting
Yoshi [to this group]: We all hear those who's standing and speaking while
 we're sitting.
Thomas [to this group]: No I mean we should just hear us right
Green [to this group]: We can hear the people who are standing 
Green [to this group]: But we can't hear the people like Frizzy and Ron who
 are sitting at other tables
Colega [to this group]: This is the classroom type room.  If you type @exam
 here, you see all sorts of cool commands.
Thomas [to this group]: I see,  but I don't no why
Yoshi [to this group]: That's the feature of this conference room.  We usually
 have only one speaker standing up and speaking.
Colega [to this group]: Is all of this being logged, at each table?
Thomas [to this group]: oh got it
Green [to this group]: I wonder
Thomas [to this group]: Ok, well let's continue
Sunshadow [to Yoshi]: Hi, Yoshi.
Green [to this group]: Are
Yoshi [to this group]: And one can always talk to the whole audience by 'su'
 command, which is 'speak up'.
Thomas [to this group]: Are?
Thomas [to Yoshi]: thanks
Green [to this group]: Sorry
Green [to this group]: Are any of you using MOOs?
Thomas [to this group]: Well, I wrote my thesis on I-net uses for ESL
Colega wonders if she is lagged.
Yoshi [to Green]: We all are right now;)
Green Yeh but to teach with
Green [to this group]: Sorry
Yoshi [to this group]: Seriously, I'm organizing a online class using
 e-mail/schMOOze.
Green [to this group]: Yeh but to teach with
Thomas [to this group]: But I have never been able use the I-net in teaching
 so far.
Yoshi [to this group]: at Frizzy's University Network.  I was hired for no
 salary there.
Green [to this group]: I'm not
Gregor sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Green [to this group]: I think it would be pretty daunting for my students
Yoshi [to this group]: Also, my students have been doing e-mail exchange with 
students from various places too these two years.
Thomas [to this group]: YEs, in distance learning, I think it is easier to use.
Yoshi [to Green]: Well, it depends.
Green [to this group]: Distence learning
Green [to this group]: Question mark
Thomas [to Yoshi]: that is progressive
Green [to this group]: Bye colega
Thomas [to Green]: DS is teaching from a distance
Mr.C has arrived.
Green [to this group]: I want to tryMUD games in Korean
Green [to this group]: But I think it will be pretty difficult
Thomas [to this group]: At the two Colleges I have taught at, students have 
to pay $ to use the I-net
Yoshi [to Green]: How's the situation at your school about network/computer?
Gregor [to this group]: Thomas, do you think student access would be a good 
neteach discussion topic?
Green [to this group]: I'm not teaching with the Net
Thomas [to this group]: Yes
Green [to this group]: I'm on a commercial provider
Yoshi [to Green]: I see.
Gregor [to this group]: Green, do your students have any access?
Thomas [to this group]: If they have to pay, they might not want to use it
Redford has to make like a banana and split
Green [to this group]: Tell us more YOshi about your situation
Redford says, "Catch you all later"
Frizzy speaks up, ""Bye Redford!""
Yoshi [to this group]: By the way, when you want to talk to a particular
 person, type:  to  
Corwin speaks up, "bye redford"
Redford says, "Bye all"
Yoshi [to this group]: It might cause less confusion that way.
Redford has disconnected.
Gregor [to this group]: Green, maybe we could save that...I'd really like to 
try to get a good list of FUTURE topics for us to discuss in these sessions....
Yoshi speaks up, "See ya, Redford."
Ron speaks up, "Bye Redford."
Gregor [to this group]: Yoshi, the problem is that then other tables hear you.
Colega has connected.
Gregor [to this group]: Let's try to make a good list of future topics to 
discuss...we're running out of time here.
Colega sits down at Fireside Bearskin. . .
Yoshi [to Gregor]: Oh, do they??  Shoot, I should have known that earlier.
Gregor [to this group]: I'm going to move on to another table.
Gregor stands up from Fireside Bearskin. . .

Frizzy, Sunshadow, Mr.C, and Ines at the Wading Pool (thanks to Frizzy)


Frizzy [to this group]: Hi!  Now we're all here!
Frizzy [to this group]: Let's talk a bit about good topics to discuss during
 these sessions.
Frizzy [to Sunshadow]: "What are some of your interests, related to NETEACH?"
Frizzy [to ines [Guest]]: "How about you?  Any ideas?"
Sunshadow [to Frizzy]: I'm interested in using the Net for ESL students 
to do real-life projects where they identify a problem, research it and 
take some relevant action.
Sunshadow lags
Frizzy [to this group]: By relevant action, do you mean in their 
community or something like that?
ines [Guest] is not quite sure about the emote command
Sunshadow [to this group]: " Yes, but it could be national or global. Just
 that they USE the language and not just write a paper
Frizzy [to ines [Guest]]: "That was perfect. :)"
Mr.C sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Mr.C [to Frizzy]: Hi...
Frizzy [to Sunshadow]: "Have you seen the book _Virtual Connections_?  There
 are lots of project ideas in there."
Frizzy welcomes Mr.C and introduces him to ines, Sunshadow and guilson.
Redford has to make like a banana and split
Redford says, "Catch you all later"
Sunshadow [to Frizzy]: Yes, I've seen the book and some of those projects 
were good, but few were appropriate for an adult ed population.
You speak up, ""Bye Redford!""
Mr.C [to this group]: Sorry I'm late (and wet)... if anyone needs projects...
 my d-base of k-12 projects covers the past six months and 20 listservs.
Corwin speaks up, "bye redford"
Redford says, "Bye all"
Ron smiles mischievously to show Lavender [Guest] his white teeth.
Redford has disconnected.
Frizzy [to Mr.C]: "We're just getting started here, brainstorming topics for
 future discussion at these sessions."
Mr.C [to Frizzy]: Unfortunately... I'm still at home... and have to leave for
 school soon... I will reconnect as soon as I can.
Frizzy nods to Mr.C.
ines [Guest] [to this group]: I would like to hear about people's experience
 in using MOOs in claass
ines [Guest] says hi to Mr.C
Frizzy [to ines [Guest]]: "That's a great idea.  I'm interested in that too!"
Frizzy has used MOO for student-teacher conferences.
Gregor sits down at Wading Pool. . .
Gregor [to this group]: How are we doing here?
Frizzy smiles at Gregor.
Mr.C [to Gregor]: A little wet... and later for school!
Mr.C says in his best Arnie voice" I'll be back!
Frizzy [to this group]: We've come up with:  Global online projects for Adult
 Ed & uses of MOO in the classroom for future topics.
Gregor [to this group]: I am seeing that people are already wanting to start
 discussing things NOW...but since we're almost out of time, let's make sure
 we come up with a good list of future topics to discuss.
Mr.C has disconnected.
Sunshadow [to this group]: Teacher training is a really big one for me too.
Frizzy agrees.
Gregor [to this group]: Sunshadow, you mean "How to?"
Frizzy [to this group]: How to train teachers.
Frizzy [to this group]: *What* to train teachers.
 Gregor [to this group]: ...or maybe "issues related to"...I'm dealing with
 that now...how to get admin. support for training.
Sunshadow [to this group]: Well, there seems to be a lot of resistance to
 using the Internet. Few teachers see it as really useful in promoting
 language ability.
Gregor [to this group]: So, how to convince teachers of the worth is another
 issue.
Frizzy thinks we could cover (in our MOO sessions) teacher training for
 classroom use and for professional development.
Gregor [to this group]: This group seems to be on the right track...I'm going
 to slide over to the next group to see how they're doing.
Gregor stands up from Wading Pool. . .
Sunshadow [to this group]: My experience in teacher training is that they see
 the value for professional training, but it means more work without pay to
 overcome the never ending learning curve.
ines [Guest] agrees with Frizzy
Frizzy [to this group]: Well, these are all things we can bring up during a
 session on teacher training, right?
Frizzy thinks it'll be a goody!
Sunshadow [to this group]: Sure. Sounds good.
Frizzy [to ines [Guest]]: "do you have any other suggestions besides 
classroom applications of MOO?"
Mr.C stands up from Wading Pool. . .

Ron, Guilson, Mehi, Corwin at the Kitchen Table (thanks to Ron)


Ron [to this group]: How many are here at the kithen table.
Guilson . o O ( cool! )
Ron [to this group]: When seated at one of the tables we can only hear others at the table.
Mehitabel [to this group]: I guesss it is just the two  of us.
Corwin sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Ron [to this group]: Hi Corwin.
Mehitabel [to this group]: I have to get ready for class soon.
Corwin [to this group]: Hi
Mehitabel [to this group]: We are sitting at the kitchen table.
Ron speask up, ""I am having trouble rounding up Garfield and Lavender."
Corwin speaks up, "Lavender, kitchen is a table, type sit kitchen"
Lavender [Guest] sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Ron [to this group]: Way to go Lavender.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: it took a while but I finally got it....
Garfield sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Corwin [to this group]: well done!
Ron [to this group]: It looks like everyone but Garfield is here.
Mehitabel pours Lavendar a cup of coffee.
Corwin [to this group]: we're all here
Mehitabel [to this group]: Garfield is not a teacher.
Ron speaks up, "Garfield Please join us at the kitchen table."
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: I hate to be dumb beut where is this kitchen - it's not on the amp.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Thanks for the coffee.
Mehitabel [to this group]: This is a kitchen table.
Ron [to this group]: Okay group.  In this small group it should be easier to converse.
Ron [to this group]: Gregor would like us to brainstorm ideas for Neteach MOO sessions.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: First of all to figure outa way that people can talk to each other , listen to each other and catrry on a converasatin.
Mehitabel [to this group]: Lavendar, what would youlike to discuss at the next meeting?
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: The idea of talking about what can be done with a MOO is a good one.
Mehitabel [to this group]: One thing I have done is have students come here and interiview specific people on a specific subject.
Mehitabel [to this group]: And then write about it.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Do you have the students go to a specific place to "be alone."
Ron [to this group]: I need to become familiar with getting names for students and finding ways to introduce them to Schmooze.
Mehitabel [to this group]: Most people here have their own rooms.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: What does that mean - they have their own rooms?
Mehitabel [to this group]: There is a dormitory here.
Ron [to this group]: You can request your own room in Schmooze.
Mehitabel [to this group]: Like real life.
Ron [to this group]: This room can be our home, e.g. a dorm room.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: How do you request your own room?
Mehitabel [to this group]: First you must become a regular character.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: How do you become a regular character?
Mehitabel [to this group]: Then you send mail to the dorm authority (Gregor).
Mehitabel [to this group]: There is a classroom here with instructions.
Ron [to Mehitabel]: Is there anyway to download Schmooze instructions?
Mehitabel [to this group]: It also teaches all the commands.
Corwin [to this group]: Ron, try http://schmooze.hunter.cuny.edu/
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: What do you write to the dorm authority?
 What is it your request?
Mehitabel [to this group]: You forgot the 8888.
Mehitabel [to this group]: You request a room.
Corwin [to this group]: Ron, try http://schmooze.hunter.cuny.edu:888/
 ...thanks, mehi
Ron [to this group]: Thanks all.
Mehitabel [to this group]: Lavender, is this your first time here?
Ron [to this group]: We have had a lot of conversation this morning.  Some 
digesting will be helpful.
Ron [to Lavender [Guest]]: Do you have another question?
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Yes this sort of my first time. I visited 
before but was very confused. Now I'm only confused without the very.
Mehitabel [to this group]: Is the text running together for you?
Ron [to Lavender [Guest]]: The first reaction to MOOs is usually one of
 confusion.
Ron never thought he would feel comfortable MOOing, but is learning.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: I don't feel bad. I'm game for another try, 
and like a good puil, I;ll get on diuring the week..
Mehitabel [to this group]: Lavender, what levels do you teach?
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: I teach teacher trainees and teacher
 trainers.
Mehitabel [to this group]: Then you are the perfect person to be here.
Ron [to this group]: Remember we are neteachers and we need not limit
 ourselves to talking about MOOs.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Thank you. Why is that?
Corwin [to Lavender [Guest]]: I used to do this too.. miss it.
Ron [to this group]: Would it be helpful to talk about what we are doing with 
computers and teaching/learning?
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: to Corwin. What do you do now?
Corwin [to Lavender [Guest]]: Teach students only
Mehitabel [to this group]: Lavendar, you are the person who will introduce the
 others to the net.
Corwin [to Ron]: are you asking about topics or future MOO sessions?
Corwin [to Ron]: for
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: TRhat's exactly what I've been doing in the 
past year. - working mainly with teacher trainers and seeing what we can do i 
 the teacher training seminars to get things moving.
Corwin thinks Lavender's job is key
Ron [to this group]: Yes, topics for future sessions aren't limited to MOOs.
Ron's lagging.
Mehitabel [to this group]: How is your net connectivity in Israel?
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: We're in pretty good shape. Most of the 
teacher training seminars are on-line and the schools are beginning. In some 
cases, there may be only one connection in the school but the teachers can 
work on e-mail projects.
Mehitabel [to this group]: We haven't had many people/students from Israel here.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Where is here?
Mehitabel [to this group]: Schmooze.
Gregor sits down at Kitchen Table. . .
Gregor [to this group]: How are we doing here, gang?
Ron [to this group]: Fine, Greggie.
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Well our classes will be coming in a few 
weeks when we do our lesson. But don't forget that the time difference is 
pretty great - 7 hours to the East Coiast and 10 to the West so the chances 
of meeting each other are pretty slim.
Ron [to this group]: Okay, Corwin.
Mehitabel [to this group]: I am usually on at night.
Ron [to this group]: IF we finish in the next ten minutes, I can finish
 logging.
Mehitabel [to this group]: However, I have a class in a very few minutes and 
am not even dressed.
Gregor nods. "I'll draw this to a close."
Gregor stands up from Kitchen Table. . .
Lavender [Guest] [to this group]: Your night is our late afternoon when most 
people are not on-line for free (like I'm ni\  not now.
Corwin chuckles
Mehitabel [to this group]: It is nice seeing you all.
Ron [to this group]: Thanks for joining us at the kitchen table.

Gregor says, "Folks! We're about out of time...people have to go teach, or go 
to bed, or whatever..."
Mehitabel stands up from Kitchen Table. . .
Sunshadow stands up from Wading Pool. . .
Gregor says, "So I'd like to thank you all for coming. I think this is not a 
bad start. We'll get some momentum going with it as we go along."
Ron stands up from Kitchen Table. . .
Lavender [Guest] has disconnected.
Gregor says, "Check the web page for a log of this session....you have to read
 pretty fast to keep up in these things!"
Corwin stands up from Kitchen Table. . .
Sunshadow cheers for the NETEACH and schMOOze staff!

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