SESSION 11-A

Keeping Up Without Burning Out

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A spacious classroom with a comfortable, lived-in feeling to it. Someone has put up at least one nice decoration: a world map with brightly colored push pins showing where NETEACHers have connected from. So far, there are pins in Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, Australia, Greece, UK, Brazil, Israel, Canada, France, Germany, and all over the US.
You see Teacher's Desk, Big Table, Bulletin Board, Beanbags, Fireside Bearskin, Kitchen Table, Wading Pool, and Hot Tub.
You see LCD Panel.
You see Frizzy, Gregor, Yoshi, thinking, and Corwin standing about.
Obvious exits: out

Frizzy can only go to TESOL if she pays for it herself.
thinking says, "sigh......that hasn't changed."
Gregor says, "I saw an ad in last week's Chronicle. Director of IEP. Knowledgable in CALL. Administrative experience. teach one class while supervising curriculum, teachers, everything. Guess the salary?"
thinking [to Gregor]: 23,000?
Gregor says, "A whopping $28K."
thinking guessed low because that what we are worth in most places.
Frizzy says, "TESOL is too specific. I can only get funding for things like Syllabus, League for Innovation, etc. I have to attend conferences that cover all disciplines."
Gregor nods sadly at thinking.
thinking says, "california community clolleges pay a decent living wage."
Frizzy says, "That's outrageous!"
Yoshi [to Frizzy]: Why not FLEAT then?
Frizzy [to Yoshi]: "What is FLEAT?'
thinking frowns...

Yoshi lets Gregor explain.
thinking says, "I may not ever see you then."
Gregor says, "Foreign Lang. Ed and Tech."
thinking says, "I can't go to league next year."
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I may be able to get myself to SEattle. I'll try!
Gregor says, "It's a joint conference between IALL and Japan LLA."
Yoshi [to thinking]: I'm sure I'll make it to TESOL in March though.
Gregor [to Yoshi]: You'd better!
Frizzy says, "I think FLEAT is too specific too. I'm a resource person for the ENTIRE faculty."
Gregor [to Frizzy]: Do you think that language learning is anywhere near the forefront of IT?
Gregor . o O ( or shall we save that til we get serious? )
Frizzy thinks for a moment.
Frizzy is having to much fun to be serious.
Gregor [to Frizzy]: That's OK; let's party a little and then get to the topic.
Gregor can dig it.
thinking will enjoy the fun.
Gregor grins.
Frizzy [to thinking]: "how is your job going?"
thinking says, "busy but fun. "
Gregor . o O ( sounds like mine! )
Frizzy nods.
thinking [to Frizzy]: we have so much catching up to do
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I know!"
Yoshi [to Gregor]: No, everyone's.
Yoshi laughs.
Gregor nods Yoshi.
thinking says, "i am training 10 hours and teaching 10 hours"
Yoshi says, "I've never heard someone say 'well, so so' when he/she is involved in IT somehow."
Frizzy smiles.
thinking hopes IT is instructional technology
Gregor nods Yoshi again. "If we're not happy, we're at least so supremely frustrated that we don't have time for boredom. ;o)"
thinking [to Frizzy]: we will catch up after the meeting.
Frizzy says, "It may be lots of work, but it's *creative*, I think."
thinking says, "and it is fun"
thinking says, "i have never had so much fun since I started in on this stuff."
Frizzy says, "I'm having a blast working with some of my teachers . . . "
Gregor says, "Well, I've said it before, but IT is what has made my career so far."
thinking [to Gregor]: me too
thinking says, "I wouldt have a full time job if not for IT"
Frizzy says, "In the fall, I have Chemistry teachers who want to create 3D stuff, an Art History class providing content for a Web site to be created by a Design class, etc."
Frizzy nods to thinking. "Same here."
Yoshi says, "Now that every ordinary people are so fanatic about so-called IT, we must go beyond that to distinguish ourselves from those ordinaries."
Gregor says, "I wouldn't prolly have a job in ESOL at all if it weren't for IT. It's what gave me the edge in getting hired."
Gregor [to Yoshi]: Very good point.
Frizzy says, "Should we start having a real (i.e. logged) discussion?"
thinking [to Yoshi]: it is the fanaticism that worries me
thinking [to Frizzy]: yes

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Frizzy [to Gregor]: "Are you loggin'?"
Gregor is loggin' bigtime.
Gregor [to Frizzy]: I can paste in what we've been saying before the *official* log...
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "I LOVE technology!"

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You are of course welcome to remain anonymous, but at this time
we invite all of you who wish to do so to identify yourselves by
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Gregor wil start by deleting the line about editing the log. ;o)
Yoshi spreads a permission form for logging and signs on it.
thinking says, "fato gregregor fake the begining"
Time and space distorts again as Corwin moves into shadow.
Corwin has disconnected.
Gregor is, by gum, Gregor.
Frizzy likes the name "fato gregregor"
Yoshi erases the line above from the log.
Yoshi giggles.
Gregor cracks up!
thinking snickers
Frizzy says, "I'm sure that must mean something in some language!"
Gregor says, "It sounds like I'm a scottish west african."
Frizzy rofl.
Yoshi lol.

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***Keeping Up Without Burning Out***

In order to use technology in the most appropriate and effective ways for our students and ourselves, we educators must keep up with changes and improvements. How do we keep up with something that changes so frequently? In today's MOO session, led by guest facilitator Karla Frizler (aka "Frizzy"), we'll share tips on keeping up with technology without getting overwhelmed (and overworked!).

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Gregor . o O ( How do we keep our hard-earned edge? )
Frizzy thinks the key is to discover new things.
thinking says, "by making new edges"
Frizzy nods.
Gregor eyes Frizzy and thinking in wonder. "Psychic sidekicks!"
thinking says, "I am now working more on integration than technology."
thinking says, "last year it was on the technology itself."
Gregor [to thinking]: Me too... except I am overwhelming myself by trying to learn ToolBook at the same time.
Yoshi adds to Frizzy's comment, "at the same time, sorting out what really helps learning while others don't but just glitter.
Frizzy says, "Me too! It's one thing to know the tech itself, but quite another to know how to USE it, especially in education." thinking says, "my line with teachers at a workshop in San diego last weekend was just because you know the technology doesn't mean you can teach it."
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "I've found it useful to know a little bit about a lot of different programs.
Gregor says, "Where do we learn more about successful routes to integration?" thinking says, "so I am working on the skills to teach technology as well as integtrate it into instruction"
Yoshi [to thinking]: Ah, but that's most of the fanatic ordianary teachers believe in tho.
Frizzy says, "that's why Instructional Designers are improtant.""
Frizzy pats herself on the back.
thinking pats frizzy as well
thinking says, "I am creating my own role....instructional trainer."
archy is going to try to join you.
archy has arrived.
thinking says, "I don't have any facility in design"
Frizzy says, "it's true. I'm more of a counselor than anything, helping teachers figure out how to integrate this stuff in the teaching."
archy waves
Gregor waves to archy.
thinking hugs archy.
thinking [to archy]: did you hear the great news?
archy hugs thinking's toe
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I think the "design" part of it is really curriculum design.
archy [to thinking]: no .. what?
Yoshi says, "I always ask myself a cool questions when I see something new, 'Hey, do I really need this, or won't I ever teach successfully without this thing?'."
Yoshi says, "Hi, archy."
thinking wonders why archy is hugging the toe
thinking says, "frizzy got a great job!"
archy notes he is too small to hug anything bigger
Yoshi [to thinking]: He can't reach high enough.
archy says, "cool!"
thinking gets it now
Frizzy [to Yoshi]: "I also help teachers look at things the other way around. Like, what could I improve in my courses, and what technology can help me do that?"
Gregor [to Frizzy]: Ah, but there's a whole field of "physical" design that has to be attended to, too, don't you think?
Frizzy NODS to Gregor. "Yes, and that's where I'm lacking too." thinking likes Frizzy's definition of design but agrees there is another road as well.
Frizzy notes that in the real world, people deal with things like multimedia in teams.
thinking says, "I am not even going to start learning the design stuff. I have no talent there."
thinking says, "I am busy enough in coordinating training."
Frizzy says, "I've been asked to produce a booklet with all the technology training course on campus in the fall . . ."
Gregor says, "I was involved in a project to write software to teach genre-specific writing tutorials. Actually, the project lost lots of steam and basically failed because we got bogged down in the physical design aspect. Layout and aesthtics and all that."
Yoshi says, "Looking back in the past, those new techs that were introduced without teacher's recognition or needs just faded away, and that's why I keep myself that question."
thinking says, "I think that is like a whole nother field."
Frizzy says, "As far as I'm concerned, since I"m providing about half of that training, having me do the graphic design, etc., is a big waste of my talent."
Frizzy would rather prepare the workshops.
thinking [to Frizzy]: exactly the way I feel
Gregor nods, but has no one at his institute to collaborate with.
Frizzy Nods.
archy thinks frizzy need to hire a desing person ... if only there were budget for it
thinking says, "and coordinate it so that teachers with other talents can train in areas that they are good at."
Frizzy nods to archy. "I hear ya!"
thinking is on raw telnet and cannot find what archy said.
Frizzy says, "IF there's one thing I'm hoping to accomplish while in my current job, it's getting people working together in groups to create projects."
archy [to thinking]: line length limit?
Gregor [to Frizzy]: I keep saying I'll do that, but I never get around to coordinating it.
Frizzy tries to get back to the subject, sort of . . .
[Yoshi is looking at the screen.]
thinking [to Gregor]: get paid time to coordinate it. That is what I did. It isn't easy though
Frizzy says, "How do those of us who want/need to stay on the cutting edge get the training WE need, especially if we are the ones who others turn to for training!"
archy says, "or release time"
thinking says, "you have to have support of your administration"
Gregor says, "I think we've gotten tooa good theme here within the question at hand, and that is, Don't try to do EVERYTHING."
thinking says, "pick a road and go down it with passion"
archy [to Frizzy]: you turn to the folks who design or sell the software
Frizzy [to archy]: "I've tried that, but to tell you the truth, I've found that their training doesn't often focus on educational uses.
archy says, "they could (should?) be faculty with expertese in the field"
archy says, "no, it is your job to take the the technology and see how to use it. they only supply it"
Frizzy says, "I've tried to get training from people in similar positions at other schools, and found they are charging upwards of $1200 for sessions on Authorware, Director, etc."
Yoshi agrees with archy.
Gregor's institute is, unfortunately, stretched thin for technology dollars at this point.
Yoshi says, "Hey, all I've been provided for by my school is a piece of mac so far."
archy says, "but you have comp sci faculty, greg?"
thinking says, "our division has a committee...non credit division that is.""
Frizzy says, "Through our grant, I've been able to purchase a great deal of software, but I don't often know what's possible with some of it. I'm starting to use more tutorials, though, which are usually pretty good."
thinking says, "I am the trainer, another is the equipment procurer and another is training implementer."
thinking says, "we all work a few hours a week released."
Frizzy [to thinking]: "That sounds great.
Frizzy says, ""
thinking says, "but we are working with 700 people mostly who are part tiem"
Gregor [to archy]: Nope, just weary network managers.
Yoshi chuckles at the word 'weary'.
archy [to thinking]: so it isn't an issue of supplying the training, but more an issue of making them want ti?
Frizzy imagines it might be a combo.
thinking says, "no I am the only one in charge of training. It is wearisome when you have so many bodies"
thinking says, "I mostly try to cover all time ranges monday -saturday 7am-10pm"
archy [to Gregor]: ah ... if faculty from different departments could get together, you might not need to spend so much to buy the technology
archy thinks thinking is overworked
thinking notes that the credit division is doing almost nothing.
thinking is not in charge of them
Gregor [to archy]: We're not a university, though... we are a little non-profit institute.
Yoshi [to thinking]: Yeah, you can make a very good'n typical Japanese.
Frizzy smiles.
archy, btw, is agenst throwing technology at education ... seems way to much is wasted
archy nods to gregor
Frizzy [to archy]: "Exactly, and that's why educators need help determining what's appropriate, helpful, etlc.
Yoshi [to archy]: That's what I was saying earlier, teachers tend to jump on every new things without any consideration.
Gregor [to archy]: I think you came in after we said something along the lines of "the cutting edge of IT is in *integration* rather than in fancy technology itself."
archy agrees, but notes that he has offered his 'expertise' to his children's teachers (for a few years) and was generally rebuffed, as they didn't want to listen.
Corwin is going to try to join you.
thinking says, "the frenzy is dangerous"
Corwin has arrived.
Gregor giggles as everyone does their damnedest to fill archy in. :o)
Frizzy [to Yoshi]: "I'm doing a workshop in the fall on "Determining Your HOme Computer Needs" because so many teachers I know get totally ripped off. They end up being convinced they need way more than they will ever use.
archy is sorry he was so late
Yoshi [to Gregor]: But the topic archy and I suggested makes a good topic for another session, what do you think?
Corwin returns adfter the lightning knocked out his pc
thinking [to Frizzy]: will you share your notes so I can do one that is similar down here.
Frizzy likes Corwin's new perm.
Gregor [to Yoshi]: I like it! Summarize it on the suggestion page of the neteach moo website! :o)
Corwin does too!
thinking says, "thinks networking is another way to keep up withthe technology and needs of faculty"
Yoshi [to Frizzy]: True, and so, teachers must know enough to tell what they really want what they don't for themselves.
archy is worried ... he doesn't recall suggesting a topic!
Gregor nods thinking. "At last week's session, Lesley put me in touch with several online resources for learning more about ToolBook."
Yoshi [to archy]: You mentioned something about throwing too much tech into education.
archy notes that this is a topic he covers regularly ... 'what do you need?'
Yoshi [to Gregor]: OK.
Yoshi is with archy.
Frizzy says, "Exactly!"
thinking says, "if we all somehow share our resources we can be more productive and keep that IT edge"
Gregor notes that schMOOze has provided the best professional networking he has experienced.
archy ahs! to yoshi
thinking [to Gregor]: I agree
Frizzy says, "I wholeheartedly agree!"
thinking says, "I think that is why we all are where we are today."
archy smiles at that indirect compliment
Yoshi nods until his thin drop on the floor.
Frizzy [to thinking]: "Good point."
thinking laughs
Gregor wipes a tear. "And great friends too! GROUP HUG!"
thinking hugs all
SQUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!
Frizzy sniffles.
Gregor passes out hugs and kleenex.
archy is damp eyed
thinking says, "but I am finding it more difficult to find the time to get onto schmooze."
thinking says, "That is my great problem."
Yoshi says, "I think this is because we're been doing this very basic real-time interaction while other ordinary folks have been dazzled by 'multimedia' stuff."
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I know what you mean. Even though I have the time, sometimes, I just want to get away from the computer."
archy [to thinking]: it is necessary to maintain your professional standing
thinking says, "by the time I work, read email it is timefor bed."
Gregor [to Yoshi]: That sounds exactly right.
Yoshi lags a big time.
thinking says, "I agree with Yoshi as well" Frizzy [to Yoshi]: "I know exactly what you mean! When I tell teachers MOO is my favorite thing about the Net, they all ask, but what about the Web?!
thinking says, "even our email and listserv stuff is all real time in a sense"
Frizzy says, "And low tech!"
Corwin thinks most people miss the main point of the net... networking
Gregor [to thinking]: Dang near!
thinking says, "they all think we are just chatting idly"
Yoshi [to Frizzy]: Same here.... Can't help those who just don't understand, huh?
Corwin says, "both for learners and teachers"
thinking says, "weto corwin exactly"
archy nods to corwin
thinking [to Corwin]: exactly
Frizzy [to thinking]: "Some people are. However, that's one of the great things about the NETEACH MOO logs. I take people to them during workshops, to give them a sense of the professional development going on.
thinking [to Frizzy]: what a great idea. I never thought of that.
Yoshi hasn't any fan letters from Frizzy's participants yet.
Gregor [to Frizzy]: Me too. I think that archive adds some legitimacy to what I try to tell people.
Frizzy [to Yoshi]: "I still include in my MOO handout the transcript from when you had an earthquake while logged on with Colega and Gregor. I have people read through it before logging on, to give them a sense of what MOO is like.
Yoshi grins at Frizzy.
Frizzy says, "It's a really great conversation, filled with lots of rich emotions."
Gregor . o O ( That was one of the most impressive and dramatic moments in my personal MOO history. )
thinking notes it was the great all time reason of how moos can be communicative and meaningful
Corwin crniges as the lighting hits his building and car alarms go off all over the place from the shockwave
thinking says, "so how do you get people to feel the closeness that we all feel by moos"
Yoshi says, "It should have made a very good story for schoolkids if I moo'ed until I burried under the building if that earthquake had been a real big one."
Frizzy [to Corwin]: "Hang on, baby!"
thinking says, "many teachers feel it impoimpersoanl"
Gregor laughs as he recalls how Yoshi scared the hell out of him and Colega, and then turned right back to the business at hand.
Yoshi [to thinking]: It's true in other moo's but not here.
thinking says, "while gregor and colega were aghast "
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I think it's something that grows over time. I certainly didn't feel any closeness until I really got to know people, just like in RL conversation.
thinking says, "but you got to know them online not necessarily in RL first, yes?"
thinking says, "maybe it is just time then."
Frizzy [to thinking]: "Right, but it wasn't like I was instantly friends with all of you. It took time for our friendships to grow and blossom.
Frizzy gets all poetic.
Gregor says, "I have a couple teachers who just can't bring themselves to be impressed with MOO, even with the discussion logs and all that. I am OK with that, though... nothing suits everyone."
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "I find that typically in a workshop with about 6 attendees, one will be impressed enough with MOO to go back and try it again."
Gregor gives his stamp of holy approval to the nay-sayers.
thinking hasn't started teaching about moo is trying to build up validity with the word processor and its use in class first.
Frizzy smiles at thinking.
thinking says, "most of my teachers think they have tto have ESL software to use the computer."
Gregor [to thinking]: My recurring theme at CoTESOL!
Frizzy says, "The main thing I try to convey to teachers is that you don't have to like or use everything. Find what YOU like, then share that with your students."
archy has shown moo to quite a few classes ... but not as a learning tool
Yoshi [to thinking]: Tell them all they need is a single wire and appropriate OS capable of networking.
Gregor says, "... and a recurring theme of my favorite CALL mentors."
archy giggles at yoshi
thinking says, "I am "i now have a chart which shows the difference between productive software and "discrete language software."
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I was in a job interview once, and someone asked me what ESL software I would recommend. I drew a blank. I said I would take student to schMOOze, or have them use e-mail.
Yoshi [to archy]: Is that because you can't regard moo as a learning tool?
thinking says, "it may be the ticket"
Gregor [to thinking]: Could you share that chart with us?
thinking says, "it is not done yet but it will be by July 7. so of course I will and you can all embellish it"
Frizzy [to thinking]: "I love the term you use: constructivism. I now use it all the time because I really think it sums up my approach to tech. I like things that students can DO.
thinking says, "products they create."
archy says, "yesto yoshi no! it is because i am not teaching a class in which there is something to be learned on a moo, other than 'they exist, and have uses (and list a few and make them list more)"
Yoshi lags badly and expects pagefuls of lines in a flash soon.
Frizzy nods to thinking.
Gregor says, "Are there any groundbreaking articles on constructionism that we should read?"
thinking says, "there is a lot on product based learning/project based learning"
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "probably.'
thinking says, "but if you want articles....it is going to be hard. I bet there is a lot onlie."
Gregor bets you're right.
Gregor will do a search later.
thinking [to Gregor]: please send me whatever you find please.
archy wishes there were a way to seperate 'real' articles from advertising on the web
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "YOu might sift through the links on one of my WEb pages: http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us:9878/~kfrizler/edtech.html
Yoshi [to Gregor]: Sum it up on your page.
thinking [to Frizzy]: which is yours now. I noticed that FUN is sort of not been updated.
Frizzy says, "There are links to articles about ed tech."
Yoshi [to archy]: We need another HTML header specification;)
Frizzy laughs out loud. "Yeah, FUN is *way* outdated. I keep meaning to get around to that . . . :)"
Gregor [to thinking]: I'll put ianything I find on my teacher training page at http://spot.colorado.edu/~youngerg/eiesl.html
thinking [to Gregor]: great
thinking snips gregs address
Gregor says, "It's a pretty rough piece of work, that I just use with teachers at my school."
Time and space distorts again as Corwin moves into shadow.
Corwin has disconnected.
Corwin has connected.
There is a brief distortion in time and space as Corwin returns.
Gregor . o O ( Corwin will return with straight hair this time. )
thinking says, "of course anything I find will be on my educational technology link in my resource library."
Corwin's hair is smokin'!
Frizzy says, "Do we want to continue, or shall we call it a night?"
thinking says, "I am also teach a grad class for the TEFL program at CAL STate Fullerton in the fall. I will have the entire class including syllabus and references online."
Frizzy says, "The time in Haight-Ashbury, San Francisco, California is now 6:11 p.m. on Monday"
Gregor [to thinking]: What's the URL?
Yoshi says, "BTW, Mutsumi just asked when I leave home for school and I replied, "When this meeting is over.' She went, 'huh?'."
thinking [to Gregor]: I will send it to you.
Frizzy [to thinking]: "Cool!"
Yoshi laughs.
Gregor will tag all thse URLs in the log.
Yoshi pings and traceroutes.
Gregor laughs.
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "Mr. HTML!"
archy [to Frizzy]: haight-ashbury! wow, cool, man. wanna hit?
Gregor smirks at Frizzy, who got him started.
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "Oh yeah, I taught you online, didn't I?"
Frizzy forgot about that.
Gregor [to Frizzy]: Yup, and now Markus is teaching me CGI online. ;o)
thinking says, "http://www.otan.dni.us/webfarm/emailproject/emres.htm"
thinking says, "too hard to do this with raw telnet"
Frizzy [to archy]: "Actually, I want to change that. I've moved. But I'm a MOO programming nimrod these days. :("
thinking says, "http://www.otan.dni.us/webfarm/emailproject/emres.htm"the last part is res.htm"
Gregor says, "http://www.otan.dni.us/webfarm/emailproject/emres.htm thinking says, "not emres"
Yoshi [to Frizzy]: Nimrod? For what??
archy [to Frizzy]: what should it say?
thinking [to Gregor]: nope....change emres to res
Frizzy [to Yoshi]: "I can't remember a lot of MOO stuff. :(
Gregor confirms: http://www.otan.dni.us/webfarm/emailproject/res.htm Frizzy [to archy]: "Foggy, festive, free-spirited San Francisco . . ."
thinking says, ""
Yoshi [to Frizzy]: Show up here long enough and I'll teach you evvverything. thinking says, "http://www.otan.dni.us/webfarm/emailproject/res.htm"
Yoshi grins.
Frizzy winks at Yoshi.
Corwin [to Gregor]: yep
thinking [to Gregor]: you got it.that is my resource library.
----------------[Gregor slaps some spam on the screen]----------------
Main Entry: Nimrod
Pronunciation: 'nim-"räd
Function: noun
Etymology: Hebrew NimrOdh
1 : a descendant of Ham represented in Genesis as a mighty hunter and a king of Shinar
2 not capitalized : HUNTER
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Corwin . o O ( spam.. ham !! )
Frizzy says, "Geez."
archy [to Frizzy]: try that
Frizzy says, "The time in Foggy, festive, free-sprited San Francisco, California is now 6:16 p.m. on Monday"
Gregor says, "I wonder if Nimrod was a dork?"
archy says, "oops...kill the cap ..."
Frizzy [to archy]: "Thanks!"
Frizzy rubs archy's attenae.
archy [to Frizzy]: de nada
archy moans
Yoshi is tunneling thru another big lag wave now.
thinking rubs arcy as well
Gregor is REALLY going to have to edit this log! :o)

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archy moans more and trys to stammer 'no fair' but can't quite
Gregor cracks up!
Gregor says, "What a session... this has been great, folks."
Corwin [to Frizzy]: is your email still earthlink?
Gregor's not sure there's a main topic here tonight, but valuable things were pursued.
thinking says, "yes it has been wonderful networking again.Look how much staff development we get doen in this short session"
Frizzy [to Corwin]: "Yep! Thanks for taking care of the archives. Nice work! :)"
thinking [to Frizzy]: what is your favorite training log from schmooze
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "I like to remain off-topic as much as possible myself. ;)"
archy hopes he didn't develop any staph
Gregor [to Frizzy]: It's a viable lifestyle choice. I'm not averse. ;o)
Corwin [to Frizzy]: they're not ready yet.. I made a mistake
Corwin laughs at archy
Frizzy cracks the whip! "Corwin, get back to work, then!"
thinking snickers
Corwin [to Frizzy]: have to wait fo the new list manager
Gregor [to Corwin]: How's the big HK countdown going?
Corwin says, "a big non-event for people living here"
Frizzy [to thinking]: "Not sure I have a favorite. There's one I use a lot, but I'd have to go back and check which one.
Gregor says, "That's good to hear."
Corwin [to Gregor]: but we get 3 days hol plus the weekend :)
thinking [to Corwin]: that is interesting.It makes the news everyday here.
Gregor laughs at Corwin. "I like that attitude!"
archy has to let the eldest son use his high tech machine
Corwin says, "it's a media event that's all"
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