NETEACH Nook
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Your typical classroom. It has that new smell to it, and it is empty. All
walls are primed with white paint and are bare, except for one light switch.
You see Teacher's Desk, Big Table, Bulletin Board, Beanbags, Kitchen Table,
Wading Pool, Bearskin by the Fire, and Hot Tub.
You see Chrisy [Guest], Yoshi, Frizzy, Alene, Ines [Guest], Thomas, Pitt
[Guest], Paula [Guest], Cynthia [Guest], Thomas, Corwin, and Green
standing about.
You see LCD Panel.
Obvious exits: out
Gregor says, "Wow, what a crowd!"
Gregor grins.
Thomas is fighting with the lag monster. A second please.
Green grins
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "No kidding! We have a bunch of live wires today. ;)"
Pitt [Guest] [to Gregor]: hi!
Paula [Guest] says, "I'm from suburban Maryland, outside of DC""
Gregor waves to Pitt.
Corwin [to Chrisy [Guest]]: you're in London?
Yoshi nods to Frizzy.
Pitt [Guest] says, "I'm from Oklahoma US"
Alene says, "really, chrisy, from london???"
Cynthia [Guest] says, "Hi.""Boulder, Co""
Alene says, "this is so cool!!!!!!!!!!!"
Gregor says, "This is exciting...we've got Brazil, Korea, Japan, HK, London.
all over the US...did I miss anyone?"
Thomas is from Seattle
Gregor says, "Shall we start?"
Chrisy [Guest] [to Corwin]: "Yes, I am. a student only. Don't throw me out
of windows.
Green says, "OK"
Alene says, "me, i'm originally from Germany, but i'm living in Pa now."
Gregor puts a transparency on the screen...
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Gregor puts a transparency on the screen...
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*** INTRODUCTIONS ***
You are of course welcome to remain anonymous, but at this time
we invite all of you who wish to do so to identify yourselves by
your name and affiliation.
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Green says, "Looks good"
Corwin [to Chrisy [Guest]]: cats don't throw anyone
Chrisy [Guest] [to Gregor]: "Hmmm -- nice OHP.
Gregor is really Greg Younger from Boulder, Colorado.
Yoshi grins at Chrisy's comment.
Gregor adds, "Oh, yeah, I teach ESL at the Economics Institute.
Cynthia [Guest] says, "I am really Barbara Sihombing -- sitting in the same
office with Gregor in Boulder, Co""
Corwin is Nick Noakes ... somewhere in a massive place called Hong Kong
Frizzy is really Frizzy, but sometimes known as Karla Frizler, from San
Francisco. She's an Ed Tech Specialist at a local community college.
Gregor [to Chrisy [Guest]]: Yoshi made the OHP...nice, eh?
Green says, "I am Greg Matheson and I am a copy reader at the KOrea Times"
Alene says, "I'm Claudia Fischer from Media, PA, student at DCCC"
Yoshi is really Yoshi in real life. He teaches English at a college in Japan.
Ines [Guest] says, "I teach English at the Instituto Cultural Brasileiro
nNorte-Americano and the Call Coordinator , too, "
Chrisy [Guest] Chrisy is really Christina (Su-hsun Tsai) from Institute of
Education, U. of London.
Redford has arrived.
Paul [Guest] slides in, ready to NETwork.
Green says, "hey REdford"
Thomas says, "I'm Thomas Goldstein a part-time ESL teacher in Seattle."
and creates cool stuff here at schMOOze!
Gregor [to Redford]: Hey! You're just in time to introduce yourself!
Gregor [to Paul [Guest]]: You too! :o)
Gregor says, "Well, it's very exciting to meet you all! Welcome!@"
Frizzy bows gracefully.
Gregor puts a transparency on the screen...
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** Net Worth: Communicating the Value of Internet Activities **
Many of us face a number of Internet access problems for ourselves
as well as for our students. *We* know we're onto something, but our
colleagues and administrators may remain skeptical. How do we gain
their support and cooperation?
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Redford says, "Hi fellahs and gals, I'm Steve Haber, an ESL intructor and
college administrator at Jersey City State College"
Paul [Guest] says, "Hi, I'm Paul from Brighton University in the Uk"
Green says, "Why the @?"
Mr.C has arrived.
Redford [to Gregor]: Are we supposed to discuss the net worth question now?
Paul [Guest] says, "I am pretty new to this, so may need some help."
Corwin [to Mr.C]: Just in time to intro. yourself
Pitt [Guest] says, "I'm Bryan (Tern Seng Chan) originally from Malaysia, now
studying in OK"
Green says, "Hey mr. c"
Frizzy detects a slight, yet annoying, lag.
Gregor says, "We came up with this topic in our last brinstorming session...
seems to be on lots of people's minds."
Chrisy [Guest] [to Paul [Guest]]: "Hi, nice to meet you.
Yoshi waves at Mr.C.
Paul [Guest] says, "Is Mr.C here with me? Am I blind?"
Thomas . o O ( How come the system has such a frightful lag!? )
Gregor lags, but refuses to panic.
Chrisy [Guest] [to Mr.C]: "I guess Gregor tries to be quick by mis-hitting @.
Yoshi warmly welcomes Mr.C, but quickly shuts the door before the lag monster
sneak in after him.
Green says, "Good question"
Gregor puts a transparency on the screen...
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Let's begin our discussion by just brainstorming some of the issues
we need to discuss today. We can use the BLACKBOARD, a feature of
this virtual classroom, to facilitate this process. To add a line of
text to the blackboard, anyone can type:
writeb
For example,
writeb Jurassic administrators
To see what has been written, type:
look black (or just L black)
Feel free to toss some ideas up onto the blackboard now.
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Mr.C says, "Hi everybody... I'm an English teacher from Richmond CA "
Paul [Guest] says, "Hi, Chrisy"
Gregor writes on the blackboard...
Green writes on the blackboard...
Mr.C writes on the blackboard...
Gregor says, "This is a very cool feature of this virtual classroom...we can
write collaboratively, or brainstorm like this...it'll help us stay on track
with our meeting (that's my theory, anyway! :o)"
Alene writes on the blackboard...
Pitt [Guest] says, "hmm..issues?"
Green writes on the blackboard...
Gregor says, "Issues related to institutional internet access problems."
Pitt [Guest] writes on the blackboard...
Redford writes on the blackboard...
Frizzy writes on the blackboard...
Alene writes on the blackboard...
Green says, "What are internet access problems?"
Gregor [to Green]: That's what we're here to find out! :o)
==================== BLACKBOARD ===========================
1) Jurassic administrators
2) sheeps & goats
3) Free mini-tutorial on using tinyfugue to connect to MOOs available from
Mr.C today.
4) students usually catch onto the moo first, why not educate them in class
about this opportunity?
5) let's avoid pigeonholing
6) US President's election
7) As a Jurassic administrator myself, I can tell you that in order to
impress my colleagues, there are two things I must do. 1) Take them by the
hand to the lab and ooh and ah them. 2) Show them how this stuff is going to
boost enroollments, retain students and reduce cavities.
8) Getting Ts pumped up about using tech in the classroom, but not increasing
student access. Is it a double-edged sword? (My current situation, beyond
my control, Frizzy)
9) take collegues to the internet and show them what is possible
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Thomas writes on the blackboard...
Redford [to Gregor]: how do we read what others are writing?
Gregor [to Redford]: Type LOOK BLACK
Paul [Guest] says, "I'm working in a University in the UK there are no real
problems with internet access here."
Green says, "I don't understand 8)"
Alene [to Paul [Guest]]: do you have computers equipped with modems?
Yoshi [to Green]: Don't understand what?
Thomas writes on the blackboard...
Gregor says, "Paul's point is a good one...so...um... who here has access
problems?"
Frizzy advises Paul to take full advantage of his glorious situation.
Corwin nods to Paul "me too.. no probs."
Yoshi used to, until very recently.
Green says, "Point 8) on blackboard"
Mr.C brb... have to get dressed.
Redford says, "We have four labs on campus with net access, and will soon have
more."
Frizzy does in a BIG way. :(
Gregor says, "Another question, then...for those of you with great access...
Do you also have all your teachers doing great tihings with the net? Does
everyone around you understand the value of what youve got?"
Paul [Guest] says, "Don't we need to prove that the medium works to encourage
use and support?"
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "Good question!"
Green says, "Yeh Proof it works"
Alene says, "i don't, because there is nobody here (at least not that i know)
that could teach me how to use the net..."
Chrisy [Guest] [to everyone]: "Thankyou all of you to share 'write/look
blackboard' with me. Amazing!!
Gregor says, "Now that we've brainstormed a little, let me repost the basic
question to you all..."
Corwin [to Gregor]: No, they're not an neither am I
Yoshi [to Gregor]: I can't say there're many, only some small portion of them
really understand the meaing of it.
Gregor puts a transparency on the screen...
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** Net Worth: Communicating the Value of Internet Activities **
Many of us face a number of Internet access problems for ourselves
as well as for our students. *We* know we're onto something, but our
colleagues and administrators may remain skeptical. How do we gain
their support and cooperation?
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Thomas says, "most of the teachers I know do not use the access that they
have."
Alene says, "so far, i'm lost with what i have here, because i don't know the
value of what i have here..."
Gregor says, "So, whether you have access or not, what is it about the net that
you'd like your admins and fellow faculty to know about it? Why are you
excited about it?"
Redford writes on the blackboard...
Frizzy says, "To answer Gregor's question . . . I think it's important to
*show* others the value. Now, how we do that is another question."
Green says, "yeh it's just a personal use not a classroom use"
Paul [Guest] says, "I am trying to consider things from a cross-cultural point
of view, anyone else?"
Frizzy says, "I think teacher training by other teachers is very important
(i.e. not teacher training by strictly tech types)>"
Gregor says, "What's so great about the internet for ESOL teaching?"
Yoshi says, "Being where students rarely have chance to use English, I'm
really excited about the real-time interactiveness of the net."
Gregor lags again.
Alene says, "as a student, i'd say there should be classes or seminars to show
the possibilities of the net, if students catch on, so will"
Alene says, "others"
Gregor nods to Friz. "So... not just tech training, but an intro to the
pedagogy behind using it?
Green says, "Yeh students should be leaders"
Corwin nods gregor "what can the net do for ESOL that is an addition to hwat
other media can do already?"
Gregor [to Green]: How do you facilitate that?
Frizzy nods back to Gregor. "Yeah, tech training with an instructional focus."
Green says, "Do it and get out of the way"
Assia is going to try to join you.
Assia has arrived.
Green says, "Hi assai"
Thomas says, "At my school students have to pay $25 a quarter to get access."
Yoshi says, "Lemme introduce Assia. She's from Switzerland and her major is
ESL and ed.tech."
Frizzy thinks there are many students in classes now who know far more than Ts
about technology, especially the Net. "They can be teaching assistants when
you're in the lab and help their peers."
Cynthia [Guest] says, "welcome Assia - where are you from?""
Gregor says, "Hi, Assia! Welcome!"
Nicki has arrived.
Alene says, "point 12 on the board seems successful - but time and energy
consuming for the person that is facilitating it..."
Green says, "IN Korea everyone is excited about the internet but"
Gregor [to Thomas]: So do you require your students to get access for your
classes?
==================== BLACKBOARD ===========================
1) Jurassic administrators
2) sheeps & goats
3) Free mini-tutorial on using tinyfugue to connect to MOOs available from
Mr.C today.
4) students usually catch onto the moo first, why not educate them in class
about this opportunity?
5) let's avoid pigeonholing
6) US President's election
7) As a Jurassic administrator myself, I can tell you that in order to
impress my colleagues, there are two things I must do. 1) Take them by the
hand to the lab and ooh and ah them. 2) Show them how this stuff is going to
boost enroollments, retain students and reduce cavities.
8) Getting Ts pumped up about using tech in the classroom, but not increasing
student access. Is it a double-edged sword? (My current situation, beyond
my control, Frizzy)
9) take collegues to the internet and show them what is possible
10) Just telling co-teachers about the NET has not generated much interest.
11) Most students has to pay to use the NET.
12) We have a few outstanding teachers doing stuff with it. What I have done
is set up a series of demo workshops to which I invite faculty and admin
types. These have been pretty successful in showing others what is possible,
and creating tech support groups.
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Frizzy says, "Well, I think a lot of what's going on in education (to be
successful) will take a good chunk of all our time."
Thomas [to Greqor]: no, not at this time
Alene says, "true"
Corwin says, "who posted 12?"
Assia says, "hi everybody..the connection is very bad for me at this time...:)"
Frizzy [to Thomas]: "When your Ss know about the Net access, are the hesitant
to pay? It's cheaper than an ISP."
Nicki goes home.
Gregor [to Frizzy]: So do you suggest that the net-knowledgeable teachers be
given time to train other teachers?
Redford [to Alene]: It's true, but in my College, part of my job as an
administrator is to do faculty development, so I don't see it as a burden at
all.
Redford [to Corwin]: I did
Gregor [to Redford]: How do you fund it?
Gregor [to Redford]: ...or account for it, or whatever.
Yoshi [to Redford]: I'm supposed to be simplly a teacher here, but am expected
to do the admin jobs and they're killing me, although I'm enjoying it.
Redford [to Gregor]: Don't have to. I ask the faculty to volunteer their time,
and because they are eager to show off what they're doing, they agree to do
it for free.
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "Exactly! I'm trying to start up a Technology in Teaching
mentor program at City College, where Ts who've had some training from me
will then agree to train one or two other Ts for a semester, to pass on their
knowledge, plus keep up on Net stuff until they can use it with their
students.
Yoshi says, "and I believe a lot of teachers are expected the same and at a
loss too."
Corwin nods "do you have something up we/I could look at ? URL's of the
oustanding stuff?
Alene nods.
Green says, "It is a faith thing I think."
Alene gathers its stuff and heads out the door.
Corwin says, "Sorry that was to redford"
Redford [to Corwin]: Not at this time. We just started this program this
semester. Perhaps next year
Assia steps out.
I love technology, don't you?
Corwin lags bigtime
Green says, "Faith that this is going to result in biig changes"
Thomas says, "I have been writing small articles about ESL on Web in the local
ESL publications here in Washington state."
Perimead [Guest] slides in, ready to NETwork.
Gregor says, "Hi, Perimead"
Green says, "Hi perimead"
Frizzy hugs Perimead, the first woman to bring her to schMOOze. :)
Ah [Guest] slides in, ready to NETwork.
Yoshi says, "Hi Perimead."
Tom [Guest] slides in, ready to NETwork.
Green says, "Hi Tom"
Perimead [Guest] says, "hI EVERYONE"
Green says, "Where were we"
Tom [Guest] says, "Hi green"
Gregor [to Redford]: So, so far, your teachers have been willing to share
their time for free... but this is a big job, in the long run!
Green says, "You were talking about expereinces getting people connected"
Cil is going to try to join you.
Cil has arrived.
Cil knocks politely to see if he may enter.
Ah [Guest] goes home.
Gregor proposes that that's a ripoff.
Green says, "Ripoff?"
Redford [to Gregor]: Yes, I must admit that I rely on the new and untenured
faculty for this.
Frizzy agrees with Gregor. "Why should Ts have to volunteer their time to be
trained?"
Gregor says, "Yeah, to ask teachers to train their fellows on an ongoing
basis."
Frizzy says, "Oh, that."
Gregor closes the door to NETEACH Nook...
Cil goes home.
Tom [Guest] gathers its stuff and heads out the door.
Gregor hopes that helps. ;o)
Green says, "Does anyone know the education literature on change?"
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "My idea is for Ts who do this to get a stipend at the end
of the semester."
Corwin says, "netlag is one of the things that pushes teachers where I am
away..."
Green says, "Netlag?"
Redford [to Gregor]: Well, these are all full time faculty on tenure tracks.
They're getting jobs for life. Don't they have some obligation to give
something back?
Frizzy [to Corwin]: "Just remind them that learning to deal with lag is a life
skill. Patience is a virtue, blah blah. :)"
Perimead [Guest] says, "Funds would probably have to be allocated before a
semester starts."
Gregor [to Redford]: Absolutely.
Paula [Guest] has disconnected.
Gregor says, "My institute has begun offering me some reduced teaching loads
to attend to the training needed."
Redford [to Gregor]: Also a lot of faculty want to attend these things, so its
a win win situation.
Mr.C says, "Is anyone here familiar with the Tapped In program being developed
by SRI (the Stanford Research Institute)? It's a program where teachers train
teachers on the net, and is just starting up. Furthjermore, one issue of
teacher training needs to be raised: compuphobia... a reason many with access
prefer to stay off. They view the Net as more work (which it is), without
seeing the longterm benefits. Any teacher training program must address
this. And I agree with Frizzy and Gregory, it's about time we start
receiving pay for our work."
Frizzy [to Gregor]: "That sounds good too.
Cynthia [Guest] says, "Doesn't the pay depend on what the defined duties of
the job are? If someone is hired only to teach, they should be paid extra.
On the other hand, if the job is more than just walking in and out of class,
a little time spent in professional development shouldn't be considered an
outrageous demand on teachers. -Spoken as an administrator!""
Green laughs
Redford [to Cynthia [Guest]]: I agree with you. We who have to face the bottom
line every year must stick together.
Frizzy [to Cynthia [Guest]]: "But learning about technology is an ongoing and
ever-evolving process, and not just "a little time" for prof dev, IMHO. :)"
Perimead [Guest] says, "At SFSU some teachers were able to volunteer for a
program to train others."
Gregor says, "The best scenario for my situation is when I can get a half-
course reduction and team teach a class with a non-techie teacher, and kind
of hold his/her hand through getting the students using the computers."
Cynthia [Guest] says, "There is a difference between the CALL person teaching
faculty (who should get extra" and the other teachers.""
Frizzy [to Perimead [Guest]]: "Wow, really? It's great to hear that."
Corwin [to Green]: at the moment I get about 50 lines of text rush thru once
every 5mins! becuase the net connection is lagging badly my here..
Green says, "The net is tryingto simulate what most teachersalready have face
to face."
Perimead [Guest] says, "This was a university wide thing--not just the College
of Humanities"
Frizzy [to Green]: "How do you mean?"
Gregor [to Green]: Do most teachers have all the libraries in the world face
to face? Or opportunities like THIS MEETING...without the net!?
Frizzy nods to Gregor!
Green says, " (to corwin) the connection is better than that here"
Corwin [to Green]: but problems like this waste too much classroom time
Gregor thinks, wisely-used, the net offers everything the CALL visionaries
have been yammering about all these years.
Corwin [to Green]: ... so winning teachers over is difficult
Green says, "Yeh but one person is as good as another to learn a language."
Gregor wishes he'd talked to Green before spending all that money going for a
master's degree to teach ESL!
Green says, "Sorry I'll just shut up for a minute"
Frizzy [to Corwin]: "I think when problems like lag come up in the classroom,
then you resort to Plan B. NOthing is perfect, but your students can learn a
lot about how to deal with technology by seeing your model and that obstacles
don't faze you. :)"
Redford [to Gregor]: Sorry you wasted your money dude
Gregor smirks at Redford.
Yoshi [to Green]: I agree with you to certain extent, but what the net offers
us who're not in English-speaking countries is just enormous.
Frizzy agrees with Yoshi.
Redford thinks of how much richer he'd bee today without blowing all that cash
on the doctorate.
Green says, "sure for the language learner it is great"
Frizzy [to Green]: "The experience we're having right now is a perfect example
of how it benefits teachers too."
Gregor pats Redford on the back sympathetically.
Yoshi nods to Frizzy.
Green says, "Agreed. That's why I am here."
Frizzy grins at Green.
Green grins back
Corwin [to Frizzy]: ... I'm talking about students but teachers who don't want
to have two plans... (the same arguemtn used against other tech)
Corwin [to Frizzy]: ... I'm not talking about students I meant
Redford says, "What you people need to do is get your administrators involved
in your programs. Bring em to your labs, show and tell, do research showing
how the net improves performance on tests..."
Frizzy [to Corwin]: "What happens when Ts have non-tech lesson plans which go
haywire? Am I the only one here who has a mental hard drive full of Plan
Bs?! :)"
Perimead [Guest] says, "Do we have evidence that the net improves performance
on tests?"
Gregor's nightmares about what happens when the tech doesn't work have led him
to ALWAYS have a backup plan when going into the lab!
Mr.C says, "One word that seems lacking from the discussion is collaboration.
The Net affordsd us the opportunity to learn from each others' experience in
how to use the Net. I can share information on tinyfugue and VSPO system
(from Diversity)... which are both powerful educational tools. Others can
offer other tools... "
Yoshi says, "Do we have evidence exposure to the language in real situation
won't improve one's skills??"
Green says, "for the EFL lernaer I think it would be obvious"
Corwin [to Frizzy]: .. but those 'things' going wrong are not usually so
transparent to sts friz
Redford wants to see some controlled experiments with like groups of students,
some net and other not.
Perimead [Guest] says, "Except when one can't access the server."
Frizzy [to Corwin]: "Then it's the T's responsibility to turn a negative
situation into a positive. AGain, life ain't perfect. Ss need to learn that
and how to deal with obstacles. (IMHO)
Yoshi [to Redford]: Yeah, I'd love to try that out too.
Frizzy [to Redford]: "I've thought of that too, but would feel guilty about
depriving the one group. :P"
Frizzy grins.
Corwin [to Frizzy]: My point is frizzy ... I know a lot of teachers he simply
won't take the risk.. ven though they're asking sts to take risks in class
every lesson.. ironic
Frizzy nods to Corwin. "They won't have jobs for long."
Green says, "Good point"
Gregor [to Redford]: YOu know, about the experimental approach...it' been
mentioned that we KNOW the blackboard is a helpful teaching aid without
testing blackboard and non-blackboard classes...
Redford [to Frizzy]: Do it with colleagues who are not using the lab.
Frizzy [to Redford]: "Aha!"
Corwin [to Frizzy]: ... not true here.. they're doing a perfectly adequate job
without net.. it ain't gonna take over that fast here
Yoshi can offer a bunch of examples then.
Yoshi grins.
Perimead [Guest] says, "I don't want to seem like a wet blanket. One semester
I had a group of students subscribed to the student lists and another which
wasn't. I couldn't see any differences in their final exams."
Paul [Guest] says, ""Blackboards don't cost quite as much as networked
computers though!"
Frizzy has to go. "I have a phone interview for a job, and I'm still in my
pajamas!"
Yoshi [to Redford]: Did they post a lot?
Gregor [to Perimead [Guest]]: Maybe the effect was something that takes longer
than a term to show up.
Redford [to Perimead,]: then maybe the skills they learned weren't reflected
on the final. Maybe another instrument can be used.
Gregor nods loudly to Paul. "I know, I know. :o)"
Green says, "Politzer said everything was a good method but some methods were
gooder tahn others."
Gregor says, "Ciao, Frizzy!"
Yoshi waves at Frizzy.
Frizzy waves to everyone. "nice discussion."
Perimead [Guest] says, "Tthe tests I gave at the beginning and end of the
semester were essays on homelessness."
The cosmic goddess places Frizzy upon a cloud with a silver lining and wooshes
her back to real life.
Frizzy has disconnected.
Perimead [Guest] says, "Bye Frizzy"
Green says, "Bye frizzy"
Redford [to Perimead [Guest]]: But was the work the students did on the net
giving them practise in expository writing?
Thomas has to get ready for school
Thomas waves bye to all
Gregor says, "I'm not sure how to reach any kind of closure on this meeting,
but we're about out of time..."
Gregor says, "Seems to me the conclusion is, Get their hands on the machines
and SHOW them the value!"
Thomas has disconnected.
Green says, "everytthing has an effect"
Corwin wonders if we could approach the topic from a different angle
Yoshi feels for Gregor's tough position as a cordinator...
Green says, "We need to discuss it more"
Gregor says, "We'll repeat this topic next week at the alternate session..."
Redford says, "Good discussion everybody. I gotta go"
Corwin nods to green
Green says, "I'll be there if there is no lag"
Gregor puts a transparency on the screen...
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A REMINDER...
Please note! Our sessions are always logged.
Before using any part of our logs for research or publication, please
obtain the permission of all particpants of those selected sessions.
For a transcript, please see our web page:
http://spot.colorado.edu/~youngerg/netmoo.html
****** Thanks for participating! ******
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Paul [Guest] says, "Thanks for all your hard work Gregor"
Green says, "OK I'm going too. I enjoyed it. I'll be back."
Gregor says, "The next session is next week (thursday in US, Friday in Europe
and asia) at um...."
Gregor checks the scedule...
Gregor can't remember the time! @$%#! "Check the web page, and keep an eye on
NETEACH-L!"
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